FEEDBACK FRIDAY - TORONTO MOTORSPORTS PARK = TOO MANY BROKEN PROMISES
We’re not
going to say that NHRA has all perfect tracks. There are some dives on that
side and while we hear promises from certain ones they’ll fix the place,
nothing happens and the NHRA declines to intervene.
Our
statement is each year the event comes to town, it’s as if this event is a
complete surprise and all repairs and upgrades are made in the days prior and
not the months as it should be.
We did not
imply Bobby Lagana, Jr. was low. We implied when a good natured racer that
never complains such as Lagana does so then you have a problem. You read one
thing and took it another.
By your own admission you say if the IHRA is unhappy about it, let them say something about. With all due respect, does that mean that we cannot have an opinion? If so, who do you speak for? – Editor
FEEDBACK ARTICLE - TORONTO MOTORSPORTS PARK = TOO MANY BROKEN PROMISES
We’re not
going to say that NHRA has all perfect tracks. There are some dives on that
side and while we hear promises from certain ones they’ll fix the place,
nothing happens and the NHRA declines to intervene.
Our
statement is each year the event comes to town, it’s as if this event is a
complete surprise and all repairs and upgrades are made in the days prior and
not the months as it should be.
We did not
imply Bobby Lagana, Jr. was low. We implied when a good natured racer that
never complains such as Lagana does so then you have a problem. You read one
thing and took it another.
By your own
admission you say if the IHRA is unhappy about it, let them say something
about. With all due respect, does that mean that we cannot have an opinion? If
so, who do you speak for? – Editor
We had to be towed out of the mud and grass in 2006. This
year, the pits were still all patched, we had to park on the grass, the rains
caused all kinds of problems, and then water oozing up through the track to
make it an 1/8th mile race is the final straw. Add to that all the
trouble at US Customs in both directions after following the instructions given
to the racers makes it impossible to want to go back to Canada at all, especially
this track - no motels close by, no decent restaurants close by, bad track, bad
pits, expensive fuel in Canada, and the anguish of the US Customs. – Chuck
Demory,
This is a one sided and narrow minded view of a successful race.
As a local resident and long time competitor at TMP, I have seen many
improvements at the track. Yes, we also complain and wish for more
improvements, especially the pit area pavement repairs.
What you failed to photograph was the full to overflowing grandstands for both
the afternoon and evening qualifying shows as well as those that stayed until
11:30 pm to watch the sportsman eliminations. These fans would have returned
Sunday for the pro eliminations had it not been for the rain.
We have a strong and knowledgeable drag race fan base here in
Don't just pick on TMP for track improvements. In my 30+ years of sportsman
racing at both NHRA and IHRA national event tracks, I have seen many other
tracks that have not put the effort into improvements that should have been
done, especially for the sportsman racers.
For example, NHRA's Maple Grove Raceway has seen little in improvements for the
sportsman racer in 30 years except for moving the return road to the opposite
side of the track. It still has gravel roads to pits in a field.
Even at
Constructive criticism along with the sanctioning bodies working with the
tracks will result in both better relations and improvements. - FJ Smith, Cayuga
Our view was
not that the area was bad and race was unsuccessful, it is that racers and fans
were made promises five years ago and those are largely unfulfilled. Every
year, it’s the same wait until the last minute deal and half are not completed
that are crucial. Other facilities were put under that same pressure and some
complied and others didn’t. The ones who didn’t are no longer on the tour. This
editorial had nothing to do with the quality of racing or crowds. It had
everything to do with the quality of the stadium and the “locker rooms” – not the
playing field.
I race at Toronto Motorsports track in Top Dragster and it never gets up graded
or improved so I have to ask WHAT does IHRA do for or with our money because in
the past when we racers call IHRA with safety concerns they just don’t get it
or don’t seam to care, You should try racing there all year and bring a sponsor
out to this dump! - Randy Caddell,
Over the years this track has had a lot of great racers race on
this track, it has a lot of history many racers got a start there and I think
its neat to race at, but if you look at places that take in families and offer
entertainment it has got to be clean and user friendly much like Canada's
Wonderland, Disney, Six Flags or any professional place to entertain, U.S. 131
, Norwalk , most NHRA/IHRA race tracks are nice, this sport needs to grow not
stand still, NASCAR is strong and so should IHRA Drag Racing, maybe Toronto Motorsports
needs help, is there some way to help them and not write negative stuff about
the place. I have seen worst places. -
We were there racing 2 weeks prior to the IHRA event (Canadian Street Car
Nationals). This was the 1st time racing race at the track as a driver (3 years
before as a crew member). I have to state the starting line was fantastic as
the traction was there. BUT the pits were the same as they were 3 years ago.
The improvements that they were talking about back then to the area did not
seem to be there with the exception of the washrooms and concession stand, My
biggest complaint is the sound system, I had heard that they were going to
install more speakers and upgrade the system, that was/is not the case, the
asphalt is still coming up in chunks. I hope that IHRA will be able to convince
them that the pit area has to be cleaned up. - Bob Burton,
I do not agree with some of the comments made in this, what you
would call an editorial of TMP. I have lived in Cayuga most of my life
and have been going to and racing at this track for more than 30 years and to
say that they have not improved is a bold face lie. Our quarter mile
track is second to none in the country. As far as the pits are concerned
I have been to other tracks where all you had to park on is dirt and
gravel. The fact that this track has survived for more than fifty years
speaks for itself. I am sure when the IHRA goes to other venues there is
much of the same prep work required for such an event. I wonder if the
NHRA would have as much of a problem with our track as the IHRA. As always we
look forward to the show every year and agree that TMP needs more improvements
but it is not the garbage you’ve described in your article. - Susan
DeAngelis, Cayuga
You’re totally right, that place could be the best drag strip in
As a Canadian and a huge Drag race fan who follows NHRA & IHRA
at least two hours a day every day of the week by way of the internet, it makes
me sick to my stomach if this is what we up here are providing to our brothers
from the south. But not only to you pros but to all of our own people who flock
there to race whenever they can because it is so close to our largest provincial
city (
Without slinging stones, I find it hard to fault some of your concerns however
I have to ask if you were at the event? It is easy to criticize anything, but
were you wearing the shoes of IHRA, or a fan, or a sportsman competitor, or a
touring pro? I was in attendance at both
I enjoy racing IHRA and value my relationships with all the racers, and the
IHRA personnel that I have met over the last few years. I agree that TMP has
some issues, but also point out so do many of the member tracks. It is easy to
fault, and say we won’t come back, but look at the market that you suggest the
IHRA turn their back on. If you were truly concerned, your editorial would have
offered solutions, or suggestions. Perhaps further than that you could have
called the management and or owner, and discussed with them the unhappiness of
those you talked to. -
TMP is my home track for weekly bracket races, so as I’m sure most
racers feel there is an attachment to their stomping grounds. I feel quite
ashamed and disappointed after reading the article about the track. I wish I
could argue with any of the points that were made but I simply can't. - Ross
Booker,
Dead-on with a zero! This place will never change until it is sold
and the current owner (Bieri) is gone.
Some of that asphalt in the pits dates back to when John Fletcher owned the
facility. The promises about repaving go back to the early 90s.
The washrooms look nice until you want to have a shower...say, on Saturday of
the National Event, then there is no water to speak of. The other nice feature
is the nice smell that surrounds the washrooms on a regular basis.
IHRA needs to give them a date to fix the long list of upgrades by early spring
and plan to yank the National Event, if the work hasn't met that milestone.
I compete at Grand Bend on a regular basis because they do make improvements
and provide a safe racing facility.
Under the bus TMP...- Rob Laing,
I totally agree with you...........I used to go to Mid-Michigan for the